Comments on: Retirees Occupy Century Aluminum http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2012/01/31/retirees-occupy-century-aluminum/ Wed, 23 May 2012 23:09:24 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: arcticslinkyhttp://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2012/01/31/retirees-occupy-century-aluminum/#comment-61666 arcticslinky Mon, 06 Feb 2012 02:42:26 +0000 http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=26510#comment-61666 I'm sure Charles Dickens weeps. I wish everyone of the 99% in America could read about these retirees. Especially Tea Partiers... a lot of whom are retired. Of course there is no national coverage of this, so much for "making a difference", Brian Williams(NBC).The mainstream media is a Corporate Propaganda Machine and Fascist; not liberal, not socialist, not communist. Having watched the company where my brother worked purposely run into the ground by it's CEO, it's pension pilaged and destroyed, it's machinery sold and shipped overseas and then the factory was closed and he went to work where our father retired from and that company has said it could no longer pay it's pensions so they turned their pension fund over to the Federal Government's Pension Guaranty Program and now they pay those pensions...and all I can think is this all a planned action by these businesses that our government condones. (By the way, all this talk about more education? doublespeak and a farce...my brother is an engineer with 30 years experience and in spite of our supposed need to train more engineers...as in the current STEM initiatives in the schools, my brother and the 24 trained and experienced engineers that he used to work with at his original job are all experiencing various states of underpayment at their new jobs and just hoping they'll have a job until they can retire and something will be there for them when they do.) How can we allow this to continue....those who should be ashamed aren't...they just press on with their demands for more, more, more. That is GREED! As for the Spanish company and cooperatives, I don't believe that. The foreign companies looking at us are like vultures, our own companies have killed and pretty much devoured the cow and the foreign companies are here to suck the marrow out of our bones. I'm sure Charles Dickens weeps. I wish everyone of the 99% in America could read about these retirees. Especially Tea Partiers… a lot of whom are retired. Of course there is no national coverage of this, so much for “making a difference”, Brian Williams(NBC).The mainstream media is a Corporate Propaganda Machine and Fascist; not liberal, not socialist, not communist. Having watched the company where my brother worked purposely run into the ground by it's CEO, it's pension pilaged and destroyed, it's machinery sold and shipped overseas and then the factory was closed and he went to work where our father retired from and that company has said it could no longer pay it's pensions so they turned their pension fund over to the Federal Government's Pension Guaranty Program and now they pay those pensions…and all I can think is this all a planned action by these businesses that our government condones. (By the way, all this talk about more education? doublespeak and a farce…my brother is an engineer with 30 years experience and in spite of our supposed need to train more engineers…as in the current STEM initiatives in the schools, my brother and the 24 trained and experienced engineers that he used to work with at his original job are all experiencing various states of underpayment at their new jobs and just hoping they'll have a job until they can retire and something will be there for them when they do.) How can we allow this to continue….those who should be ashamed aren't…they just press on with their demands for more, more, more. That is GREED! As for the Spanish company and cooperatives, I don't believe that. The foreign companies looking at us are like vultures, our own companies have killed and pretty much devoured the cow and the foreign companies are here to suck the marrow out of our bones.

]]> By: sisterlaurenhttp://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2012/01/31/retirees-occupy-century-aluminum/#comment-61663 sisterlauren Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:43:19 +0000 http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=26510#comment-61663 The people who say nasty things about occupiers need to have this group thrown in their face. The people who say nasty things about occupiers need to have this group thrown in their face.

]]> By: kinlinkhttp://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2012/01/31/retirees-occupy-century-aluminum/#comment-61656 kinlink Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:03:28 +0000 http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=26510#comment-61656 I'd like to hear about the concept of Co-operatives, but that surely is about future ideas to  supplant our current (if failing) system of One-percenter dominated capitalism challenged only by the "adversarial arena" presented by organized labor.<br>But how can Mr "noinks" call this presentation a complaint about partisan issues. Those retirees are truly hurting victims who've had their contractual agreements abrogated by the oligarchs who run American business, and represent the essence of the Greed that has stripped our social contract from the 99% . SHAME on the capitalist system that alllows this. Charles Dickens must be rolling over in his grave. I'd like to hear about the concept of Co-operatives, but that surely is about future ideas to  supplant our current (if failing) system of One-percenter dominated capitalism challenged only by the “adversarial arena” presented by organized labor.
But how can Mr “noinks” call this presentation a complaint about partisan issues. Those retirees are truly hurting victims who've had their contractual agreements abrogated by the oligarchs who run American business, and represent the essence of the Greed that has stripped our social contract from the 99% . SHAME on the capitalist system that alllows this. Charles Dickens must be rolling over in his grave.

]]> By: noinkshttp://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2012/01/31/retirees-occupy-century-aluminum/#comment-61647 noinks Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:44:16 +0000 http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=26510#comment-61647 Why don't you write about the deal USW struck with Mondragon Corporation in Spain? This deal was struck in 2009 for the USW to partner with Mondragon to form cooperatives here in the US. But there's not been a word about it since from the USW.<br><br>Instead you write articles complaining about partisan issues. Wouldn't someone truly interested in workers be writing about cooperatives: businesses where workers have some control over production and the distribution of profits? Why aren't you working to get those coops started, Leo? Who needs to occupy if they control the business? Why not write about THAT? Why don't you write about the deal USW struck with Mondragon Corporation in Spain? This deal was struck in 2009 for the USW to partner with Mondragon to form cooperatives here in the US. But there's not been a word about it since from the USW.

Instead you write articles complaining about partisan issues. Wouldn't someone truly interested in workers be writing about cooperatives: businesses where workers have some control over production and the distribution of profits? Why aren't you working to get those coops started, Leo? Who needs to occupy if they control the business? Why not write about THAT?

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