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> <channel><title>Comments on: No, America Is NOT a Christian Nation</title> <atom:link href="http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:23:04 -0800</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: AlteredStates</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29887</link> <dc:creator>AlteredStates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 04:49:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29887</guid> <description>&quot;Christian and tolerant of other religions&quot;?  Yeah, as long as the U.S. does Israel&#039;s bidding and lets Israel get away with murder and violating every U.N. Resolution they don&#039;t like, via the AIPAC. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S. If you don&#039;t know what AIPAC is, Google it, then tell me who runs our foreign policy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Christian and tolerant of other religions&#8221;?  Yeah, as long as the U.S. does Israel&#39;s bidding and lets Israel get away with murder and violating every U.N. Resolution they don&#39;t like, via the AIPAC.</p><p>P.S. If you don&#39;t know what AIPAC is, Google it, then tell me who runs our foreign policy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AlteredStates</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29878</link> <dc:creator>AlteredStates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:18:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29878</guid> <description>Avatar.  Could you be a Nigerian Prince who is looking for someone to help you cash a huge &quot;inheritance &quot; check but, are having trouble cashing it in an American bank because you are living in Nigeria and have to tend to your &quot;Kingdom&quot;.  Would you be that sort of fellow?  If so, I might be able to help you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avatar.  Could you be a Nigerian Prince who is looking for someone to help you cash a huge &#8220;inheritance &#8221; check but, are having trouble cashing it in an American bank because you are living in Nigeria and have to tend to your &#8220;Kingdom&#8221;.  Would you be that sort of fellow?  If so, I might be able to help you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AlteredStates</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29876</link> <dc:creator>AlteredStates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:59:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29876</guid> <description>&quot;If America were to become a theocracy, it then would be no different than the middle-eastern nations. I hope that day never comes for Americans&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You hope in vain.  We are already living in a theocracy.  It is called, &quot;Israel&quot; or, should I say, AIPAC.  AIPAC has been described as one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, DC, and its critics have stated it acts as an agent of the Israeli government with a &quot;stranglehold&quot; on the US Congress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have my own beliefs but, you won&#039;t find my beliefs in any Church, Synagogue, Temple or, Mosque.   To me, they are all the same.  With all these groups it&#039;s, &quot;Us&quot; against &quot;Them&quot;.  And, as long as that remains the same, WE WILL HAVE WAR!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If America were to become a theocracy, it then would be no different than the middle-eastern nations. I hope that day never comes for Americans&#8221;.</p><p>You hope in vain.  We are already living in a theocracy.  It is called, &#8220;Israel&#8221; or, should I say, AIPAC.  AIPAC has been described as one of the most powerful lobbying groups in Washington, DC, and its critics have stated it acts as an agent of the Israeli government with a &#8220;stranglehold&#8221; on the US Congress.</p><p>I have my own beliefs but, you won&#39;t find my beliefs in any Church, Synagogue, Temple or, Mosque.   To me, they are all the same.  With all these groups it&#39;s, &#8220;Us&#8221; against &#8220;Them&#8221;.  And, as long as that remains the same, WE WILL HAVE WAR!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: AlteredStates</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29873</link> <dc:creator>AlteredStates</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:24:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29873</guid> <description>Very well said.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For those of you who &quot;think&quot; that this is a Christian nation that is fighting for Christian values, try following orders to kill children, old and crippled people, or, anything else that breaths.  Then, after you get back to the &quot;States&quot; and start to think of what you have done in the name of Jesus, try not to kill your self for all the shame and guilt you feel for believing a lie.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;P.S. For the first time in the history of the V.A., more soldiers are being treated for mental problems than physical war wounds.  And, to that I say; &quot;Thank you Jesus&quot;;  &quot;Praise God&quot;; &quot;Hallelujah&quot;; and all that other phony shit I hear Christians say.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said.</p><p>For those of you who &#8220;think&#8221; that this is a Christian nation that is fighting for Christian values, try following orders to kill children, old and crippled people, or, anything else that breaths.  Then, after you get back to the &#8220;States&#8221; and start to think of what you have done in the name of Jesus, try not to kill your self for all the shame and guilt you feel for believing a lie.</p><p>P.S. For the first time in the history of the V.A., more soldiers are being treated for mental problems than physical war wounds.  And, to that I say; &#8220;Thank you Jesus&#8221;;  &#8220;Praise God&#8221;; &#8220;Hallelujah&#8221;; and all that other phony shit I hear Christians say.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: littlepitcher</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29709</link> <dc:creator>littlepitcher</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:28:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29709</guid> <description>This nation was populated by, among others, numerous Scots and Germans who left their native lands to avoid witch burnings.  These ranged from simple pagans to closet Jews to outright Satanists.  &lt;br&gt;The downfall of slavery was due to Christians and humanists, working side by side, to end an injustice.  Though anti-racism activism was predominantly secular in the 20th century, it must be recognized by both Christian and non-Christian that Dr. King utilized a Bible-based approach to defeat Jim Crow and convert many whites to his cause.  &lt;br&gt;A perusal of our founding documents will establish that this is a nation based upon the old belief in a deity, and founded on the modern notion of individual liberty.  The conservatives cry for individual liberties while depriving non-Christians of that liberty and straitjacketing individuals in their version of corporate conformity.  We need to be constantly reminding them that individual liberty and religious freedom include the liberty to be different and to eschew any denomination of religion, and to continually fight against any person or group which attempts to bind us to an identity-defined standard.  Such deprivations of liberty are the ultimate in identity theft.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This nation was populated by, among others, numerous Scots and Germans who left their native lands to avoid witch burnings.  These ranged from simple pagans to closet Jews to outright Satanists. <br
/>The downfall of slavery was due to Christians and humanists, working side by side, to end an injustice.  Though anti-racism activism was predominantly secular in the 20th century, it must be recognized by both Christian and non-Christian that Dr. King utilized a Bible-based approach to defeat Jim Crow and convert many whites to his cause. <br
/>A perusal of our founding documents will establish that this is a nation based upon the old belief in a deity, and founded on the modern notion of individual liberty.  The conservatives cry for individual liberties while depriving non-Christians of that liberty and straitjacketing individuals in their version of corporate conformity.  We need to be constantly reminding them that individual liberty and religious freedom include the liberty to be different and to eschew any denomination of religion, and to continually fight against any person or group which attempts to bind us to an identity-defined standard.  Such deprivations of liberty are the ultimate in identity theft.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dikocmys</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29646</link> <dc:creator>dikocmys</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 01:12:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29646</guid> <description>Sorry I did misinterpret your words, but I thank you for the erstwhile and poignant rendering from your heart and the explanation of your historical plight in your homeland. Thank you, dikocmys</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I did misinterpret your words, but I thank you for the erstwhile and poignant rendering from your heart and the explanation of your historical plight in your homeland. Thank you, dikocmys</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Altered_States</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29636</link> <dc:creator>Altered_States</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29636</guid> <description>If you are referring to the part of my &quot;Post&quot; where I say, &quot;you&#039;re on the land that God gave me&quot;, as being the USA (my land) then, you missed my entire point.  I was referring to the Middle East.  The Jew/Arab dispute has been going on since 1947 when the U.N. carved out a piece of land and created the country known as &quot;Israel&quot;.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My world view is one where no one owns the land - a view the Native Americans held until the White Man started to break treaty after treaty with them.  Since then, the White Man created the myth of the &quot;Indian Giver&quot; which means, &quot;you &quot;Indians&quot; gave us this land and now you want it back&quot;.  The facts are, the early settlers of the 13 Colonies (pre-USA) kept on pushing the &quot;Indians&quot; further and further away from their tribal lands by breaking treaties that &quot;guaranteed&quot; the &quot;Indians&quot; their rights to the land that belonged to them in the first.  Talk about a mind fuck.  The real &quot;Indian Givers&quot; were the White Men who broke the treaties.  But, being human and greedy and most of all liars, the White Man flipped the concept and called the original &quot;owners&quot; of North America &quot;treaty breakers&quot; or, &quot;Indian Givers&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This sort of thing has been going on for as long as recorded history - the Middle East being just one current area of conflict.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;FYI the Jews and Arabs were living in peace with one another even inter-marrying until, 1947.  Since then, there has been one war after another - all because  the Jews wanted a &quot;Home Land&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If the Jews want to use the Bible as the &quot;final authority&quot; as to who the rightful owners truly are, they better re-read their own &quot;Writings&quot;.  Their &quot;Writings&quot; clearly state that the Messiah is going to be the One who restores Israel, not the U.N. or any other human institution.  And, the reason for the &quot;Diaspora&quot; - as they call it - is because they dis-obeyed Yahweh.  Yahweh caused their land to be invaded because of their sin, not because of some cabal of foreign nations Hell bent on Israel&#039;s destruction.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are referring to the part of my &#8220;Post&#8221; where I say, &#8220;you&#39;re on the land that God gave me&#8221;, as being the USA (my land) then, you missed my entire point.  I was referring to the Middle East.  The Jew/Arab dispute has been going on since 1947 when the U.N. carved out a piece of land and created the country known as &#8220;Israel&#8221;.</p><p>My world view is one where no one owns the land &#8211; a view the Native Americans held until the White Man started to break treaty after treaty with them.  Since then, the White Man created the myth of the &#8220;Indian Giver&#8221; which means, &#8220;you &#8220;Indians&#8221; gave us this land and now you want it back&#8221;.  The facts are, the early settlers of the 13 Colonies (pre-USA) kept on pushing the &#8220;Indians&#8221; further and further away from their tribal lands by breaking treaties that &#8220;guaranteed&#8221; the &#8220;Indians&#8221; their rights to the land that belonged to them in the first.  Talk about a mind fuck.  The real &#8220;Indian Givers&#8221; were the White Men who broke the treaties.  But, being human and greedy and most of all liars, the White Man flipped the concept and called the original &#8220;owners&#8221; of North America &#8220;treaty breakers&#8221; or, &#8220;Indian Givers&#8221;.</p><p>This sort of thing has been going on for as long as recorded history &#8211; the Middle East being just one current area of conflict.</p><p>FYI the Jews and Arabs were living in peace with one another even inter-marrying until, 1947.  Since then, there has been one war after another &#8211; all because  the Jews wanted a &#8220;Home Land&#8221;.</p><p>If the Jews want to use the Bible as the &#8220;final authority&#8221; as to who the rightful owners truly are, they better re-read their own &#8220;Writings&#8221;.  Their &#8220;Writings&#8221; clearly state that the Messiah is going to be the One who restores Israel, not the U.N. or any other human institution.  And, the reason for the &#8220;Diaspora&#8221; &#8211; as they call it &#8211; is because they dis-obeyed Yahweh.  Yahweh caused their land to be invaded because of their sin, not because of some cabal of foreign nations Hell bent on Israel&#39;s destruction.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: raymondemerson</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29618</link> <dc:creator>raymondemerson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:26:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29618</guid> <description>The self styled religious right is certainly not Christian. They demand that the ten commandments be carved in stone and placed in public places. The moment you start questioning them they immediately start quoting the old testament. They are tied to the old testament. Theirs is an old testament religion. They are pre-christian. They never got there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any time I face these 10 commandment demanders I make a suggestion. I suggest that I will support their ten commandments in public places if they will support my placiong the beattitudes along side of them. This is most unsatisfactory. The are not going to have blessed are the peacemakers along side of their most cherished beliefs. They supported and still support the current wars. Don&#039;t fool yourself the political right has no christians in it. They are all pre-christian. They have never gotten there.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The self styled religious right is certainly not Christian. They demand that the ten commandments be carved in stone and placed in public places. The moment you start questioning them they immediately start quoting the old testament. They are tied to the old testament. Theirs is an old testament religion. They are pre-christian. They never got there.</p><p>Any time I face these 10 commandment demanders I make a suggestion. I suggest that I will support their ten commandments in public places if they will support my placiong the beattitudes along side of them. This is most unsatisfactory. The are not going to have blessed are the peacemakers along side of their most cherished beliefs. They supported and still support the current wars. Don&#39;t fool yourself the political right has no christians in it. They are all pre-christian. They have never gotten there.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: repugnantcans</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29570</link> <dc:creator>repugnantcans</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:59:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29570</guid> <description>Must have been reading one of those Texas textbooks! &lt;br&gt;Refudiation is in the mind of the beholder.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must have been reading one of those Texas textbooks! <br
/>Refudiation is in the mind of the beholder.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: burrf</title><link>http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/31/is-america-a-christian-nation/#comment-29514</link> <dc:creator>burrf</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=13494#comment-29514</guid> <description>Thomas Jefferson and several others of the founders of this nation were STRONG Deist&#039;s not christians. Deist : one who has a belief in a creator being, but not of any traditional dogma such as christianity or islam. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact is this the First amendment trumps any religions direct or indirect influence on the  governments political power structure. The intention is such that The U.S.A. would never suffer the totalitarianist scourge of THEOCRACY i.e. as they have in saudi arabia, or iran. We cannot allow christian theocracy to be implemented by the subterfuge carried out by zealously christian politicians, nor can we allow outside influences like islam to undermine the intent of our first amendment with fake outrage and absurd interpretations that serve only their own ends(which would be sharia law). The best and most balanced approach favors a secular attitude in the legislation, implementation, interpretation and enforcement of our constitution and bill of rights.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Jefferson and several others of the founders of this nation were STRONG Deist&#39;s not christians. Deist : one who has a belief in a creator being, but not of any traditional dogma such as christianity or islam.</p><p>The fact is this the First amendment trumps any religions direct or indirect influence on the  governments political power structure. The intention is such that The U.S.A. would never suffer the totalitarianist scourge of THEOCRACY i.e. as they have in saudi arabia, or iran. We cannot allow christian theocracy to be implemented by the subterfuge carried out by zealously christian politicians, nor can we allow outside influences like islam to undermine the intent of our first amendment with fake outrage and absurd interpretations that serve only their own ends(which would be sharia law). The best and most balanced approach favors a secular attitude in the legislation, implementation, interpretation and enforcement of our constitution and bill of rights.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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