Comments on: What We Need to Do to Counter Our Man-Made Apocalypse http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/15/have-faith/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:54:13 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jimdelducahttp://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/15/have-faith/#comment-5381 jimdelduca Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:38:17 +0000 http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=3581#comment-5381 Friends, as an organizer for the Industrial Workers of the World I admire the good Reverend's pluck and Direct Action tactics. They get people thinking and could lead to more widespread revolutionary actions.The sociopathic corporations, which all can see are destroying the planet and democratic society, draw their power from money. Money fleeced from their workers, customers and the taxpayers. And money borrowed from cronies in the equally sociopathic corporate banking system.If you agree with the Rev I suggest two more simple revolutionary actions which you can do yourself today: Put what little money you have left in a credit union, and if you are a worker, get organized with the IWW. Our goal is to do away with the capitalist system entirely. The sustainable future of the planet depends on it.Jim Del Duca IWW (The Wobblies) Friends, as an organizer for the Industrial Workers of the World I admire the good Reverend’s pluck and Direct Action tactics. They get people thinking and could lead to more widespread revolutionary actions.

The sociopathic corporations, which all can see are destroying the planet and democratic society, draw their power from money. Money fleeced from their workers, customers and the taxpayers. And money borrowed from cronies in the equally sociopathic corporate banking system.

If you agree with the Rev I suggest two more simple revolutionary actions which you can do yourself today: Put what little money you have left in a credit union, and if you are a worker, get organized with the IWW. Our goal is to do away with the capitalist system entirely. The sustainable future of the planet depends on it.

Jim Del Duca
IWW (The Wobblies)

]]> By: Paul_Chttp://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/15/have-faith/#comment-5348 Paul_C Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:42:04 +0000 http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=3581#comment-5348 The Reverend is speaking a different language than that of a scientist, which is what I am, but still it speaks to me at a fundamental level, which is the level of truth at an experiential level and at the level of social justice that is missing in our society.I understand what he is saying. It makes sense to me, and more to the point it is what liberals are missing - a way to connect with people at an emotional and experiential level.There is a branch of fundamentalist Christians who are trying to reform their churches to address real issues such as poverty and environmental degradation, although I have not heard much about them for quite a while.We cannot save the Earth and ourselves without embracing this planet in THIS life!peace, Paul The Reverend is speaking a different language than that of a scientist, which is what I am, but still it speaks to me at a fundamental level, which is the level of truth at an experiential level and at the level of social justice that is missing in our society.

I understand what he is saying. It makes sense to me, and more to the point it is what liberals are missing – a way to connect with people at an emotional and experiential level.

There is a branch of fundamentalist Christians who are trying to reform their churches to address real issues such as poverty and environmental degradation, although I have not heard much about them for quite a while.

We cannot save the Earth and ourselves without embracing this planet in THIS life!

peace,
Paul

]]> By: jdlechhttp://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/03/15/have-faith/#comment-5341 jdlech Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:51:34 +0000 http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/?p=3581#comment-5341 Money. What would we be like if we purposefully quit using money? I don't mean just switching to credit, I mean ending the use of money as a concept.I'm convinced that most everything that is wrong with our society is fundamentally rooted in our use of money. Most of our environmental problems, crime, poverty, homelessness, starvation... all of it.I've heard insanity is doing the same thing over, and over again while expecting a different result. Money was instrumental in helping us through times of scarcity. But today, we don't have scarcity except that which is artificially created by the use of money. Today, money is an anachronism that is causing more problems than it solves. Without money, we can produce and distribute enough for all to eat; enough for all to wear and to live in. Our use of money is what keeps us from getting what we want for everyone. So why, then, do we continue using it long after it has outlived its usefulness? Isn't that insanity?There are several systems devised today that eliminate the use of money, but they are all untried and untested. Because of this, I don't know for certain which system would work best. But I do know what will happen to us if we don't eschew the use of money. Extinction. Money. What would we be like if we purposefully quit using money? I don’t mean just switching to credit, I mean ending the use of money as a concept.

I’m convinced that most everything that is wrong with our society is fundamentally rooted in our use of money. Most of our environmental problems, crime, poverty, homelessness, starvation… all of it.

I’ve heard insanity is doing the same thing over, and over again while expecting a different result. Money was instrumental in helping us through times of scarcity. But today, we don’t have scarcity except that which is artificially created by the use of money. Today, money is an anachronism that is causing more problems than it solves. Without money, we can produce and distribute enough for all to eat; enough for all to wear and to live in. Our use of money is what keeps us from getting what we want for everyone. So why, then, do we continue using it long after it has outlived its usefulness? Isn’t that insanity?

There are several systems devised today that eliminate the use of money, but they are all untried and untested. Because of this, I don’t know for certain which system would work best. But I do know what will happen to us if we don’t eschew the use of money.
Extinction.

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